Podcast Episode 22: Master Your Health & Nutrition

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Natasha (00:00):

Thanks for joining me.

Kate (00:59):

That's okay.

Natasha (01:00):

All right. So. Um, I wanted to bring you in because you have known me for a really long time. You've known my eating for a really long time, and you've also knowing my obsession with success and why people get certain results and why people don't get certain results the whole time you've known me as well. Yep. And do you remember? I came in to the, I think it was only a couple of months ago when I was like, I just need to figure out Kate, just need to figure out this little thing, this little thing that why don't people do what they know they should do.

Kate (01:33):


Natasha (01:33):

I don't wanna, if I figure that out, I can help more people. Yeah. So, um, I w I've wanted to have a chat to you because that's, that's what I've been obsessing about. That's what I've been reading about. That's what I've been thinking about and I've applied it to, um, uh, eating and achieving health goals and achieving weight goals. And, um, yeah, I just wanted to have a chat cause I, you know, when you come up with an idea, but you're like, Oh, I don't know if it's really right. Or if it only works in my situation or if i'm, just the only freak in the room and that does not apply to everyone else.

Kate (02:08):

Yup cool.

Natasha (02:08):

Yeah. So. I thought we'd have a chat. So, um, my thing with eating was that it wasn't, that I didn't know that two kilos of chocolate a day is bad. Um, it wasn't that I didn't, um, like I woke up and I planned to not eat two kilos worth of chocolate, but then I did. So firstly, I just want to just, I know we're going public and I haven't like, I hi you with this going.

Kate (02:38):

Yes totally fine.

Natasha (02:38):

Is everyone I paid to know this. I'm cool with everyone knowing that I in the past used to. Um, and so I told you, I said, I'm gonna just, I just read four books around binge eating disorder and blue Bolivia. And you gave me this look, I'm like, I'm not believe me. It can, I don't have a binge eating disorder, but I'm really enjoying reading about these people that have taken what I think my behavior is to a whole other level.

Kate (03:01):

Yeah, for sure.

Natasha (03:02):

Yeah. And so I said, I think I have, um, a eating disorder. Not that I have anorexia or bulimia or binge eating disorder, but I have the, the, I have disordered eating.

Kate (03:13):

Yes, yup.

Natasha (03:14):

That I will go through life eating a certain way. And then I'll go through life eating a different, certain way based on something that's happened in my life or based on how I'm feeling. Yes. And that doesn't sound very functional.

Kate (03:25):


Natasha (03:28):

So. I, I, you know, my, my first lot of, um, uh, customer research is like, okay, well what does kate do? Think about this. What does Kate do around this? So, um, yeah. Can you talk about like how you picture your health and what like, do you eat perfectly all the time and achieve all your health and weight goals? Or what do you think stops you or blocks you from achieving your health or weight goals?

Kate (03:53):

So when, I guess we'll, you know, when I've got my mind to it, I just do it. It's, there's a no brainer. There's no other anything else,

Natasha (04:00):

When I make you work super hard.

Kate (04:02):

That's a good thing. It distracts. It's distracting. I think about that.

Natasha (04:07):


Kate (04:08):

24 hours a day. Um, but when something is stressful in my life, it's not normally with work because I work when I'm at work, I'm not thinking about it. But in the last 18 months, there's been a few very stressful things in my life. And I know that I eat when I'm stressed and I know that it it's comfort food.

Natasha (04:30):

I was going to say, so you just broke out the broccoli and you know, kilos,

Kate (04:34):

I wish

Natasha (04:36):

Food. Is it? Cause I think also people have their different foods. What food is it for? You?

Kate (04:41):

Probably chocolate. Yep. And not lollies. I don't do lollies.

Natasha (04:46):

Potato chips.

Kate (04:47):

not potato chips, but maybe like, carby food. If it's not sweet, it's savory. Carby food. Like maybe pasta or, or potatoes, something, you know, like chips or something.

Natasha (04:59):


Kate (04:59):


Natasha (05:00):

Yeah. Yeah. And that's, what's funny, like everyone has their different things now. How do you feel before you're eating the food?

Kate (05:11):

Well, as in why I'm eating the food

Natasha (05:14):

well just how do you feel? So yes. We know you're feeling stressed or you're feeling sadness or you're feeling a certain emotion, but how do you feel right before you put that food in your mouth?

Kate (05:25):

Like it's going to taste amazing. What else do you feel? Um, like a crack as a craving for that food.

Natasha (05:32):

And what does a craving feel like? How do you know you have a craving?

Kate (05:38):

Oh, that's an interesting one because I don't know the answer to that because I go, I feel like chocolate is gonna make me feel better.

Natasha (05:45):

But then right before you're about to put the chocolate in your mouth. If I said, don't put the TacoBot in your mouth, how do you, how do you feel.

Kate (05:52):

if you said don't put it in your mouth, I'd feel disappointed.

Natasha (05:55):

And would you listen to, could you do to me?

Kate (05:59):

Yes. Like cool. I could. Yes. Because I also have this thing about, I don't want people to judge me. If you go, Oh, don't eat chocolate in your mouth because that's really bad for your health and you shouldn't eat that chocolate. I'm watching you.

Natasha (06:14):

Not only do I have to make you work seven days a week. I have to live in your house. I love it. Alright. So. Let's not use that one. Thank you so much for articulating that. But so the reason I'm going with these questions is I feel right before I eat the chocolate, I have to a compulsion and irrational, crazy compulsive. I must.

Kate (06:43):

Yeah. I don't know if I feel that. I think it's, once I start eating it, I just I'm like, I've got to keep eating at all until it's all gone.

Natasha (06:50):


Kate (06:51):

But if it's not in my house, I won't need it. Yes. If it's in my house, it's gone.

Natasha (06:54):

Okay. And do you ever have the thought halfway through? Maybe I shouldn't.

Kate (07:00):

Yeah. When I start feeling unwell.

Natasha (07:03):

Back it up before you feel unwell, what? You, so then take me into the eating of it. What are you feeling good? I guess.

Kate (07:13):

Yeah. Good. good. It's good. I don't even know if, is it a stress relief? Cause I do feel better after it about, I also feel worse because I've eaten crappy food. Yeah. But during, during eating it, I guess I'm justifying why I can keep eating it. I've already started eating it. So might as well finish it off.

Natasha (07:36):

Do you, are you present when you're eating it?

Kate (07:39):

Not don't reckon that's a lot in the, in the, in the binge eating books, they just go there. It's a numb. It's just, I'm an,

Natasha (07:47):

I think I get to, like when I become aware of it, I'm like why that's finished? Yes. How'd that happen? You wake up suddenly. You're like, Oh, now I'm back. And now that it's finished, I'll make the decision to stop growing off of myself. I make this decision and all that. There's normal food left. Um, and yeah, I found that really interesting reading about the people with the actual diagnosable eating disorders, like how far that they would take that and how far the numbing episode would take. And, uh, people with actual binging disorders that eat an extreme amount of food. Like, it's just, it's an, I think for us, we, we don't have a disorder or a ball condition, but I think that the, the, the elements of numbing out and the elements of, um, like I have to have, it was something that I went, Oh God, yeah, this is really resonant. Yeah. So I was reading all this and I went, okay, well I have to solve this. I have to fix this. And so I think it's really important that we start asking the questions, as I said to you, it's like, okay, how do you, how does it start.

New Speaker (08:48):

? So what's the trigger. And it might be the emotion might be, I had a stressful day out, a sad day. I feel like I can't cope. I feel overwhelmed. I feel, um, all those kinds of things. And then I went, Hm. That evidence doesn't stack up because what do you want to do on your birthday?

Kate (09:04):

Yeah, of course

Natasha (09:07):

On your birthday. You're not normally stressed. Not normally I'm happy. And I'm like, great.

Kate (09:13):

But then that all goes out the window and you go, I don't, I'm not counting calories or.

Natasha (09:18):

There are no rules.

Kate (09:20):

It doesn't count on your birthday. Right.

Natasha (09:22):

But then it doesn't stack up to, um, eating in a certain way is only like there wasn't, it suddenly became this thing where it's not an only thing.

Kate (09:31):

because just because you feel better after you, like you feel okay, you don't feel better about eating the food, but I feel better. I don't feel stressed after it. You know, obviously the chocolate is making my dopamine levels go crazy.

Natasha (09:43):

It's doing great things for dopamine. Have it run. Doesn't know what you don't come in is it's your pleasure hormones. So it's a pleasure. No one will deny that if you do like chocolate, the reason you like it is it releases your dopamine and you feel pleasured. It doesn't like to feel pleasure. So, Um, there's that? But I go, Oh, like, there's lots of other things without getting too graphic. There's some things you and I do together, but separately, I was thinking just pledge out, but don't wait. Cause I was so I'm really interested with dopemine. Cause I go, okay, humans love doing things for pleasure. Then why aren't we just eating and having sex to 24 hours a day? I don't get it. If that's what we're driven to do as humans, why aren't we just doing what makes us, gives us pleasure all the time and then dying. Like isn't there animals and their own animals.

Kate (10:32):

Yeah where are animals that do that.

Natasha (10:36):

I can't that I've lived a lie for three days, but God, those three days.

Kate (10:39):

It was awesome.

Natasha (10:43):

okay, we don't do that as an animal. There's other animals that do do that in the animal kingdom. We don't. Okay. Why don't we do that? Why do you think that is?

Kate (10:54):

I guess it wouldn't be as, I guess if you get it as a, you know, lucky you feel that all the time, it wouldn't be as good.

Natasha (11:03):

Yep. You don't mean that. Um, receptors can get full when you're in dopamine receptors are full. There's no more pleasure. It's full. Um, there's absolutely that. So I was going, okay, so our, would you imagine for, or are we not? Um, and then I guess we have more evolved brains then, and I love that we're like aware that an animal just has sex and eights and then dies. But when I actually sure up with one of it, no, I feel an insect.

Kate (11:28):

I'll see. I was thinking some kind of rodent.

Natasha (11:29):

Oh, were you?

Kate (11:30):

Yeah, it could be neither.

Natasha (11:32):

For those for everyone listening. This is not a podcast or a show based on science. It is not the science channel. Please be okay with us. Not knowing anything sciency. Um, but yeah. Where was I? So I was going to, we're not tripping because we're high, we're more highly evolved that we can hold in our brain, that we have a higher purpose. Like we're going, okay. I want to achieve this in my health or I want to achieve this in my weight. So therefore my behavior needs to be in alignment with that. And that all makes perfect sense until it doesn't make sense.

Kate (12:08):


Natasha (12:09):

Cause do you agree that there's the part of your brain that goes, I logically understand that.

Kate (12:14):

Yes. of course.

Natasha (12:15):

Cool. And you know, we, part of our big part of our business is helping riders overcome fear. And most of what they say is logically. I understand I'm okay, but I'm not okay.

Kate (12:25):

Yeah. But I'm not getting on the horse.

Natasha (12:28):

Which I love. That's, that's sort of fun that really digs me up when people are like, I get it, but I don't get it. It's not happening. It's not happening. So I went on a really, really, really big dive on, um, under, like, as I said at the start going, why don't people do what they know they should do so same with riders. People know they should probably ride their horse, but they feel that they can't people that want a certain health outcome or certain white outcome. We know that they need to eat and move in a certain way, but then they saw this stuff's happening. So, um, yeah, you're going to come on our health mastery journey about me and I am so, so excited. We've got, um, this is our, like a foundation program, a new program for us and a new program. I have no idea how it's all going to resonate and how it's all going to go. But I think we've got 87.

Kate (13:20):

Something like that.

Natasha (13:20):

87 people joining us on the journey kicks off on Monday, so excited. And you're going to be part of it. I'm going to be part of it. I'm going to be mentoring the wholeway. I'm going to have made a commitment to every single person. I will help you move your neurology around to get to the point where you, so yeah, for me, I used to go on those numbing binges and not that I had a binge eating disorder, please don't think that I did that. And I'm not, I'm not even saying that. I understand why bulimics do what they do. And why beginning disorders is, is, is, is, is, yeah, I'm not a psychologist. I'm just taking the elements of everything that I've seen and gone. Okay. For me, I can make sure that I engage the, the certain part of my brain disengage another portion of my brain and, um, make sure I release anchers and make sure I released, like, we've got so many habits. Like if you said, well, it's a habit to have birthday cake on your birthday. And we have an emotional link that stress stress plus chocolate equals no, you're not stressed. We're creatures of habit, creatures of strategies. If stress plus chocolate equals no stress, of course we're going to go there. And that's why people were stress. Plus gambling equals no stress. They'd go to gamble or stress. Plus shopping equals no stress. They go to shop.

Kate (14:37):

I think I might have that too

Natasha (14:38):

How many of these do i have. But that's normal that that's how the brain works. And, and, and my obsession with learning how the brain works is, is yeah, it's something I'm really excited to unleash to amazing health mastery people and have them breaking free from the habitual and the emotional and the illogical way that they might be approaching their health and weight goals and get them on track so they can achieve health and weight for life.

Kate (15:05):


Natasha (15:06):

Because again, what I say to you, I said, I'm not doing like a full week to, yeah. He's five kilos in five weeks, eight, your way to abs God, how many people have done an eat your way to abs? Um, yeah, I didn't want to do that. I'm not a personal trainer. I, this is coming purely from a mindset point of view and NLP point of view, a success point of view of going well, hang on. What are the things you need to know? So the first part of the course is what do you need to know to get results? Because some people might not know that chocolate doesn't actually help their health and weight goals or eating. McDonald's how bad that does and how it does the biological pathway. So McDonald's, if I Donald's one day a year, it's going to make excellent no difference. But if I did every week it does and w and people go, Oh yeah. Why? Because it has fat in it, or because it has, you know, like why, what is it that it does to your hormones? What does it does to your digestion? What does it do to your entire way your body operates, which is why it's so damaging and causes the results that you don't want the opposite of the results that you want. And then on the second part, we're going to unpack the psychology and we're going to go, okay, now that you know what you need to do, um, uh, how do we do that? Okay. Um, how do we make it that I donate to cakes? Cause for you, it's the weekends, isn't it.

Kate (16:21):

During the week. I'm okay. Cause you know, just a routine.

Natasha (16:24):

You put a fence around it. I go to work. Cause otherwise, if you were like you were on the weekends, you wouldn't even come to work, do you kind of feel like, yeah. Yeah. And when you're off, you're off. Yeah. When you're on own, is that on Friday night or does it start on Saturday?

Kate (16:41):

It starts on Friday night. Cause we normally have to take away for dinner. So then it starts on Friday night. Yeah. Probably goes all the way to Sunday.

Natasha (16:48):

Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. But then Monday don't no matter what, what about if it's a public holiday on Monday and you don't come to work, what's a Monday look like,

Kate (16:55):

and it's probably the it's a weekend.

Natasha (16:57):

Yeah. And again, and again, I just love it. Like I could ask 10 people that question and some people would go like you just brought up, you know, Oh, that's a week end. The rules in tight squad is that's a weekend. And the rules in Claudia's life is it's a Monday. And what also different. And we all have these different rules and these, this operating system, which dictates whether or not we get the results that we want. So superstar. And then the third bit is what movement do we have to do? Because we're lucky we do have the gym, you've come back to the gym.

Kate (17:26):


Natasha (17:27):

It's all happening. Um, but we're getting older. I remember when both of us were really young.

Kate (17:33):

and it wasn't easy.

Natasha (17:35):

And now like it's not just the movement and going to the gym, but the, to me, the, I have to get really obsessed around the suppling work and the flexibility.

Kate (17:42):

Yes. That's that was me coming back to the gym. I was so stiff afterwards.

Natasha (17:47):

It wasn't that your leg muscles, couldn't squat. Your body. Couldn't go.

Kate (17:51):

Not doing this anymore.

Natasha (17:54):

Yeah. So it's super important as we get old enough to work on all aspects of our fitness, not just get to the gym, but we got to keep the flexibility. We've got to keep the cardiovascular and we've got to get that core really strong because you do a lot of sitting. You do a lot of like, we want to make that back in core, really strong. So super, super pumped. I'm so glad. I'm so glad everyone commit you. And they'll say you in a course. H.

Kate (18:14):

  1. Yup.

Natasha (18:15):

So, um, how do people join the course, if they're listening right now,

Kate (18:20):

there'll be a link somewhere.

Natasha (18:21):

magical link. Kate is magical with her magical link. So we'll get that all sorted. And I can't wait to start releasing the results that everyone's getting.

Kate (18:30):


Natasha (18:30):

And um, yeah, if you, aren't interested in a completely different way of looking at your health and white goals, it's not a personal training challenge. It's not an eating. You won't get a bloody eating plan. Nope. It's not that it's. How do you first, what do you do? What do you do to achieve your health and weight goals? And then how do you make sure that you stick to it and do it?

Kate (18:49):


Natasha (18:50):

Cool. Looking forward to seeing you guys join the program. If it is right for you, the link will be around and yeah, you'll see lots of updates from our amazing superstars that have joined us in the next couple of months. We'll see you soon in the group.​