Podcast Episode 11: The Olympic Journey With Eventer Amanda Ross

Podcast Episode 11:  The Journey To The Olympics And Beyond With Eventer Amanda Ross

Today Natasha speaks to Olympic eventer Amanda Ross about about all things horses including her journey to the 2000 Olympics and what the future holds in her eventing career. If you would like to check out Amanda Ross, you can find her on Instagram, YouTube and Facebook by searching "Amanda Ross Eventing Fit"

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Natasha (00:00):
Hey riding superstars today, I have an amazing conversation with the brilliant Olympic eventer Amanda Ross. We get into everything. What does it take to be an Olympian? What does it venting at a top level look like and much more. So enjoy the conversation.
Natasha (00:56):
Thank you so much for joining me today.
Amanda (00:58):
No, thank you for inviting me.
Natasha (01:01):
I'm so excited to share your story because you have achieved so much. I'm sure lots of listeners are going well. How did you do that? And, and, and what do I need to do to be able to replicate that and to have the success that you've had? So if that's okay, that's where I want to take today and I'm trying to help people with that. So, um, how did you, I mean, yeah. How did you get started? Share your story. I'm assuming there's a, A club involved somewhere. Normally. That's how everyone's Starts.
Amanda (01:32):
Yeah, definitely a Pony Club involved. So, um, my mum rode as a hobby rider and I went to Poney club and funnily enough, she, where she learned to ride, um, was actually where, um, when I was two, she started to ride again and that's where I ended up learning to ride, went Poney club. So it's a property called tooradin estate and the Pony Club was tooradin pony club and the Francis family with an amazing start. So, you know, I did riding school stuff just, um, when I was under eight years old and then I bought my pony, which, um, was, you know, the typical gray little, 11, three hand sometimes did what you wanted a lot of the time didn't really do what you wanted, but, um, you know, that's, that's a great start.
Amanda (02:17):
Um, and the pony club Tooradin was, um, really strong into eventing and also, uh, quite strong in, um, jumping equitation. So, um, my grounding in position and, um, you know, I had to ride lines properly and striding and all that kind of stuff. And the shape the horse makes over the fence. I think I was really lucky to live really early. Um, and then, you know, it was a really good party club because, you know, I had to go at showing and, you know, we all did the sort of the, um, the state dressage and state Slack teams, you know, and the tapes for stuff.
Amanda (02:56):
Yeah. Um, and you know, then state show showjumping what else. We do, um, I've got, I even did the, like the games and yeah, we really did everything and where I kept the horse at Tooradin and it was 400 acres. And so you trudge out to get your pony with the head caller and you would catch the horse. Mostly in spring, things swooped by magpies and then winter to be really wet. So you'd be climbing alongside a fence because he had to get from A to B and there was a huge big Lake of water. Um, and then you jumped on your pony with you lead rope tighted around from one side of the holter to the other and ride it back and he had to lean over and undo Gates and that sort of stuff. So, um, I think I was really fortunate to have a really well grounded beginning to not just riding, but sort of, um, horse management and really getting in there with the nitty griddy, um, of being a proper horse person, I guess.
Natasha (03:54):
Absolutely. And when, when did the seed of an Olympic start?
Amanda (04:01):
Um, you know, it's really funny. I don't remember that there was this sudden epiphany where I said I am going to the Olympics. Um, I mean, I was clearly like quite interested in competing and I, from the showing I really liked to present really well. And I was interested in training and having a good position, um, and then love the eventing. And I think if you are into eventing, you have this, you need to have an innate sense of getting the job done and not fear things or second guessing. So when something went wrong and sort of really want to get on with it. Um, and I think it was just one of these things that I just wanted to be the best at what I was doing, and it wasn't like I want to get, and then everyone else I just really wanted, just loved it. I was really internally driven.
Amanda (04:54):
I think it was like, well, you know, I just wanted to keep going, going up the ranks and getting better and better. And then all of a sudden opportunities started to open themselves to me. And, um, it's kind of being the way. So it's been, it's amazing. I don't think I'm very good at, I'm not really a hobby rider. I'm not sure that would be my thing as much as I love horses. Um, I so much enjoy, um, the whole preparation for competition and choosing horses and doing programs for them and preparing and stuff, and then getting to the actual event itself.
Natasha (05:25):
Wow. I love it. I love it. And, um, along the way, you know, you're saying, Oh, i was pushed to, to just be better than what I was doing today. I want to be better. I want to be better. Did that come out in other areas of your life? how was School? Are you an A grade student or was it only in the riding that you exhibited this? I must be better personality Part.
Amanda (05:49):
No, it's really with stuff I love it. I love it. Cool. I was the kid that drew horses, all the school books and, um, if I love doing something, I took an enormous interest in it and it had, yeah. So basically I really struggled to get my tax and my admin done because if I don't a hundred percent really understand it, it frustrates me and then I want to push it aside. But when there is something I do understand it's got to be, you know, I really liked doing it well, it's going to have a system. I want it to, you know, be neat and tidy and to do my very best. So at school, um, I was just your average kid. Um, and you know, I just got every try, I mean, past everything and went to Uni and did first year phyico ed. I really loved that, but then I've got the opportunity to go to the UK. So I ditched university went to the UK. So I think everything was always pointed towards competing and writing.
Natasha (06:45):
Yeah. And was there a conscious choice of, like you said, there was kind of maybe uni and then the opportunity came with the UK and then did you just make that choice of, I will be a competitive rider as my living and as my job.
Amanda (06:59):
Yeah. It, it, it kind of, I just love it. I just really love doing it. So whatever enabled me to do it, I migrated to, um, so I think when I went to the UK, it was because my family, um, my stepdad got to got a job over there. And so we had the opportunity to, to move there and I just grabbed it and ran with it. And I say for 18 months, I only stayed for 12 months. So I stayed for six months longer. Um, and, um, the uni stuff, I mean, I wasn't really into the uni lifestyle. I would basically use uni as a stop gap between going to the horses and then getting home again. Um, although I do really enjoy like now, which is a personal trainer and I really loved the fitness and the anatomy side and physiology. So probably if I wasn't doing the horses, I would be in some kind of a, um, an exercise physiology type of role.
Amanda (07:48):
Um, but, um, in terms of coaching, the coaching came because of me being coached so much. So I think when you are, when you are trained a lot and you learnt, um, the learning process of being a rider, then I think it's more natural to you to be able to, I mean, obviously you have to be a communicator, but it's a, it's an easy job to go into, isn't it, you know, when you're a rider to the coach. So, because I needed to earn an income, um, I took the coaching, um, and continue that all the way through to a level three now. Um, and so I'm very passionate about that too, but because I still want to compete and have a great opportunity to, I can't fully do the coaching. Cause it just, as you know, you can't do both. It's really hard to do.
Natasha (08:37):
Yeah. And do you feel that conflict, you know, like you get, when something comes up and it's, your student might be doing a competition, but you really want to do this other competition. Do you feel a conflict there?
Amanda (08:52):
Yeah, look, I, I see some coaches who, um, And particularly in the American system where, you know, people can go to the jumpy yards and their horses are fully looked after for them. They're on full degree. Um, you know, they get worked for them during the week, the rider gets to the show their horses there, the groom hands and the horse, you know, they're coached by their trainer in the warmup and, you know, the trainer is there to hold their hand and, um, I'm just not ready to be that person yet because they're still, excuse me. I still have to put so much time and mental effort into my own competitive stuff. And I think I kind of believe that you've got room for one passion and passionate about my students only I have to cut off my own stuff and I have to prioritize time with them. And unfortunately, like, you know, I wasn't ever coaching on the weekends anymore or on a Friday, because if I had someone that wanted every single Friday, you know, every second Friday, I'm like, Oh, I'm really sorry. We're going to a show on Thursday night or Friday morning. I'm not going to be here. So I ended up over promising and under delivering, which I don't want to do. So, unfortunately I think when I broke my wrist, once one of my clients said to me, you gave the best lessons when you broke your wrist, you know, fully present you a hundred percent for us. And we absolutely loved it, but we do understand that I may come down the track, but right now I can give X amount and I have wonderful clients, small bunch that I teach and I adore teaching them. Um, but yeah, it's, it's hard to do both, but yeah.
Natasha (10:30):
So it sounds like you've definitely still got this competition and this drive and this desire. Is there a plan for 2021, it plan for 24 plan for 28?
Amanda (10:43):
Well, look at the moment, we're just trying to plan for Tokyo. It's really interesting because, um, particularly having eventers it's a little bit, like if anybody's had a looked at training for a triathlon, you've got to try and fit these three sports into a seven day week. And obviously three doesn't go into seven very easily. So my, my weeks are planned, my months are planned, I look six months down the track. I look forward planning thinking, you know, this horse, Horse A, we're going to aim him for, you know, for this advantage in six months time. So we've got to go backwards and work out where we start getting him fit and what events we do, all that kind of stuff. So, um, that's been my life for years and years. It's just rotating around this, um, event is working program, excuse me. Um, and so when COVID hit and luckily with Tokyo, none of us were selected. So I think if they'd said, this is the team and you're on it and then take it over your feet. I think that would have been really devastating. Cause you've just, it's, you know, it's so close in the same spot. It's still, no one's been selected yet. So we've had to reinvent this program. And I think the one thing that keeps us really sane is that, you know, you learn when you're in all of these high performance programs that the public can say what they want. They can be like, Oh, the Olympics running, maybe the Olympics went run, you know, you don't listen to it all. Just go plan them for exactly 12 months forward from where they were. We now have to just work out new training routines depending on whether we're competing or not, you know, new training routines to prepare the horse, get going, new training routines, you know, for this, that, and the other. So, um, it's just a lot of planning, but you've got to learn. We've all had to be really flexible with it as well.
Natasha (12:33):
it's huge. It's huge. I absolutely love it. So for someone who's listening to this going, I really want to become the top in as an eventer or get to the Olympics. Do you think? Cause I know when I was young, I said, I'm going to go to the Olympics. I was, I couldn't, I was in prelim dressage. I said, I think I was 1998. And I said, I'm going to ride dressage at the Sydney 2000 Olympics. And I didn't know what, I didn't know. I just thought I had to try it on the spot and do some skipping it cant be that hard to learn that. Um, and so I'm wondering if there's people listening to this going, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna go to eventing. Can you give an example? It sounds so much work and it's sometimes when people say I want X, but they're not understanding of what X really means, like all the work and all the other things. So could you explain a little bit more of just what's involved?
Amanda (13:25):
Um, basically I'll my, my, my generic program. So seven days a week, um, horses have the Monday off because they've usually gone to a show competed on the weekends. So that's a easy, easy day to have off. Um, and then Tuesday as a flat day, Wednesday can be a showjumping day. Thursday's a fitness Workday. Then we rotate it again. When you go back to Friday being a flat day, because after they've done a Gallup day, you don't want to do anything too hard. Would it be able to support them again and then went on a flat Saturday? Sometimes I may jump show, jump again, but not necessarily. Um, depending on the experience with the horse um, how much work did on Wednesday. Cause every fortnight on Wednesday, my jumping coach comes to my place and we have a group of people. We all have lessons. Um, and then what have we got? So Sunday would be a jumpy date and Sunday there would be another fitness day. So that's generally the six days a week, one day off program. Um, as we all know, there's all sorts of management stuff. So I've got, um, I had a team of five eventer. So we take them to go and do their fitness work, which is a place 10 minutes down the road. And I'm really fortunate to have that. So as an event rider trying to find some where to, um, get your horses fit is quite a difficult process because you can't just canter them around on the flat because at the end of the day, we're trying to minimize the wear and tear from the scalloping on the leg. So if you can go up and hill increase the heart rate, but reduce the speed that you need to go at. So trying to find somewhere, I have this, my friends places beautiful, but at the moment we've had more rain in the last little while than we've had in forever. And so it's just essentially too wet. So then I go out and speak and if it's too hot or too wet, there are only going to jar up more than a police shoes off. And when three out of five horses to wear bar shoes and gell pads, that's a problem. But that is a little bit frustrating. I know having done, I've really got into show jumping the last two years and I secretly would love to at some stage convert to jumping because it's the new challenge. And I love the fact that I could have one saddle. The changes could be late and I can specify in one thing. So I know that sounds a bit funny. It's a, it's so challenging. So having to go out and do that with the event is, is, is it, is it quite time consuming? And then you've got to do a lot of stuff with them. Like I know everybody, that's got a horse, they want to manage, you know, icing their legs, looking after them like that. So after jumping days up to always have their legs iced , they stabled in winter, um, out in summer. So we've got for the moment for horses box.
Amanda (16:12):
Um, and what else do we do? They get their worked about probably when they're in work, it's about 45 minutes to an hour a day. And that involves, I'm always like to walk them out. So I'm really lucky on this property, but there's 30 acres, but all of the pathways to the Padocks are um, graveled. So I try and walk them on gravel. And if it's nice enough way that also on grass, um, and get the appropriate awareness improve because there's adventures that gotta go on everything. Um, and then, uh, what else do we do with them? We trot them up regularly. So, um, I often practice if I'm leading them, trotting them up because one of the phases in a, in a three day event is the trot up. I know it doesn't say if you don't get past the trot up, you don't get to play the game at all. I'm always checking them to soundness every single week troting them up in a straight line, putting on circle. Um, what else do we do then going to shows, um, is often a Friday, Saturday, Sunday scenario. A lot of the shows are in new South Wales, and i'm in Victoria. So there's a bit of traveling to be done. Um, then there's alot of washing. This is a lot of washing. So we have two sets of two saddles for each horse. Um, their show jumping boots , work boots. Um, they, you know, one horse might have the same bit for all three phases, which is rare. So some horses have three bridals, um, jumping saddle cloth you know, flat, saddle cloth, Rug changes the whole thing. So just the constant change of disciplines and management and keeping the yard tidy and running. We have a massive whiteboard in the tack room, as you can imagine, everyone needs the whiteboard.
Natasha (17:52):
Full on, full on, and then it sounds like you, so there's, there's the riding time of 45 minutes to an hour, six days a week, then there's the management and the travel and the washing and all that. And then it sounds like there's also a mental, like when that's all done, you're inside and you've got your calendar out and you've got the planners and who taught you about how to plan the training and, and okay, if I've got to do this competition, what does that mean in terms of how fit the horse has to be and what I have?
Amanda (18:22):
Yeah, that's a really good question. So, um, when, when I was young, I had a good friend of mine who, um, went to Heath Ryans and she did both months, six, 12 month course up there. And so when she came back and I was still at school, um, when she went, so I learned a lot from her. So I had her as my friend slash mentor guide. Um, and then I read a lot of books. So back then, you know, nothing was on the internet. It was all books. Um, and then to the UK, that was a really, really good education. So, um, I got to work in a few different yards and I went to watch badminton, um, and stay with the guy I was dating at the time his parents ran the caravan accommodation at badminton. So I got to go behind the scenes, go in the stables, see all that stuff. Um, but a lot of this stuff, to be honest with, um, through my friend Liz who stayed with Heath, I learned about interval training around the track. And I read a book by Mary, came to back Mary Thompson's of NT year. So I read from January to December, she started the horses out of the Paddock and they were woolie and prepared them for like badminton and stuff. Um, a lot of horse physiology books that have different, um, fitness sessions in them. Um, I think a lot of it was books, books written by accomplished writers and, you know, key takeaways like this is the fitness program, but you need to work this to your facilities in your horse. And if it's not feeling right, I'm using a heart rate, monitor is an awesome way to learn about your horse. And if it's not quite right, you know, don't push through it. You've got to learn to back off and read the signs and negotiate and be flexible. So, um, I then, I mean of light. So now, um, the high performance program that I'm involved with, um, uh, in the Australian equestrian to Australian to eventing team is amazing. Like, I can't tell you how, how much of an amazing group of people, um, have put enormous amount of work into the structure of this program. So during COVID, all of the team members and staff have had digital meetings and because this is totally new, it's like, what do we do with these fit eventers that are a bit older? You can't just turn them out. It's like older athletes. So any athletes, um, so we actually all had these meetings and all discussed what we were doing with the horses. Um, the vets were involved as well, and it was, it was bright because it was very transparent.
Amanda (20:50):
No one is trying to not share their information. Um, we all got together and now made our own and plan. So it's still continued to learn because we, you know, I mean, everything of all seems change. There's new ways of getting horses fit, or you get a horse that's different, has different issues compared to one you've had before. So, um, I just, I feel like a spark, which I always want to be a student. And I think that that makes it exciting and you can stay in the sport for ages because you just never stop learning.
Natasha (21:19):
Yeah. Yeah. And it seems, yeah, that passion of, I want more, I want more, I want more is the driving force that does everything for you.
Amanda (21:27):
And I just, I think I just really love it. So I found the fitness side and I found the exercise side. It's a huge interest. So it's not, it's not like work. I think that's the thing. If it doesn't feel like work to you, then you don't mind doing it. And I mean, yet none of us, I don't want to go out at 8.30, nine o'clock at night, but at the end of the day, um, you know, I'd rather be doing that than kind of sitting on my bottom or, you know, doing something I wasn't passionate about. So, you know, suck it up.
Natasha (21:54):
Exactly. And have there ever been times I know in my dressage journey, there have been lots of frustration and lots of, ah, I know, I know what it's meant to look like, but it doesn't look like these are, I know it's meant to, you know, I know I want to clean change and I think I've got the shoulder and I think I've got everything, but it's not happening. Is there any times where you've felt a real block or a real, I just don't know how to progress past this.
Amanda (22:20):
Definitely. Um, definitely. I think like I remember before Sydney, um, and I was, I was at 25 or 26. Um, it was actually before that 1998, um, I traveled to the UK as part of, there were three, three younger riders. Um, and we were, there was some extra funding. So, um, high-performance sent us to the UK for three months before the world equestrian games, which were in Rome and my horse ended up going really well. Um, and I decided when I was there, that I was, again, going to learn from everybody. I could get my hands on and, um, you know, trial, the new equipment is in the UK. They have every bit, every nose band and you can go into saddlries and there is bits of second secondhand tech. So I just had a field day. Um, and so that was really fantastic. And then my horse got travels going from England to Rome. So I got, I got, I got selected to go on the team I got there and, you know, he, I couldn't compete. And that was the first public super, super devastating thing. And I had to learn how to, you know, the hardest thing is like, is that we're not selected until the last minute? Whereas in a lot of other schools, they selected a couple of months out and they, we know before that and they try and meet the team. So the first thing I learned was that unfortunately you have to be prepared for the disappointments and it can happen to everyone sometimes it's because, you know, it was out of, out of your control sometimes it's because, you know, you didn't manage something well enough, you can say it coming. And that's all like, okay, because it's just part of, um, a part of what we do. Um, so again, there's been, there's been other things like, yeah. Trying to, um, trying to learn new movements on an event horse on the flat. Um, and you've, you've just want to kind of, I suppose, with dressage, I find that you can, you can take things very step by step and you don't have to move forward until you've got them. And, you know, listening to you talk about the change. I just, it's so funny cause I've done it. Dressage to a degree I get what your talking about.
Natasha (24:19):
You are very good. No we see you out there we are like, she's, she's, she's, she's winning. Like we need to, we need to learn off her.
Amanda (24:29):
It's funny. Cause I had this wonderful opportunity on a little eventer on who ended up, I just turned to a straight dressage horse cause it was like I was going to fall off or I was going to win. And the amount of times I was falling off out and it's another thing, how do you, how do you choose to was ahead of the time? And the risk is too strong. Um, but he also had a potential career as a dressage horse. And so I had to decide that instead of being hit and miss that maybe I should steer him to another direction. So that was another quiet, hard lesson. And although he was really difficult, like he was cold backed, he wouldn't let me get his bridle on and he's bridle off, or Plat his forelock, catch him and stuff. But I would, I was still having today because I learnt at one time, changes other grand Prix movements and they have stayed with me my entire life and I will have that horse back tomorrow. So that was quite tricky. I had another eventer who actually, my mum has now created a Tora Bora and she's now 22 or 23 and um, two Melbourne, three day events in a row. She was like coming third, going into the show, jumping at the course and she had five rails down five, you know, and that's devastating. And I don't think I could have riden her any better. I think, you know, there's horses, you'll go out there on and they'll be great jumpers and they'll try really hard to keep the rails up, but they're eventers and they're not designed just to show jump. They gallope across the country and they might've done a great job for you. Cross country had done a good test. And so it was very humbling. And I think, um, you know, you get a lesson from, from everything. Um, and the fact I'm still doing it sometimes when I talk about those things, I'm like, we're all nuts. We're really out. But um, you have to love the everyday process and learn, learn to learn, learn to appreciate the stuff that doesn't go well. Cause even though yes, it's crap at the time and you need to allow it to be cracked and you need to get that out of your system. But then there was always, there were always not just one lesson from it. There's so many lessons that you take from it. And I think that's why I'm still doing it now.
Natasha (26:30):
That is amazing. And you talking, when we're looking at dressage horses, you know, sometimes you get the wrong one, you realize that it can't do a certain thing. I can't even imagine. So when you get a young eventer, horse, you go, yep. We Can walk to our Cantor so it can do some dressage. It can go over a pole and it can, it's happy to go on the water jumps, excuse me. I don't know much about eventing, but maybe that would be, um, but then you get higher and higher and higher and then suddenly realized that, Oh, the rails come down and the show jumping or they're not very fast in the eventing or they're just got a mindset thing around the half pass or something. And so does that happen often that you you've got such high hopes when they're young and then as they progress, you're like, or they're missing just one bit in one area. That's not going to mean that they can do the top top.
Amanda (27:19):
Well, they go on sound.
Natasha (27:21):
Oh, you've got the right horse, stop,
Amanda (27:30):
Like a few, you know, those, um, those DJ, um, machines were, I don't even know what they called it, but I guess, yeah. Yeah. It's a big like doing that. And like, um, if you're a, if you're a, a more of amiter rider looking to learn and there's things that you'll like, you might forgive, some, you know, unsound as if it's manageable and you might say, I need to make sure I'm only riding four days a week riding on the best surfaces I can, any days, you know, some joint injections or, you know, some management. And so to the experience that the horse has, that's really acceptable, um, for when the horses that I'm looking at now. Um, there's two choices. I always grew up producing my own horses and that's to end. I do. I actually really enjoy producing young ones. I don't break in because I never kind of did. Like I had to, maybe let's say rebreak a few that I got from, um, English sales and they weren't quite as broken as they were. But generally speaking, um, these days, the top level of enters are really amazing athletes. These horses are incredible and they could be maybe not straight show jumpers, but they've got to be clean over it, a metre 35 to 40. So they've got to be super talented. They've got to be able to move like pretty well, like let's say, I mean, obviously not dressage well, but they've got to have clear paces. Um, they've got to have a great Cantor cause they go to jump out of it. You're trying to teach flying changes. I must say like late changes in eventing are a thing. And the problem with that is that like for example, you start jumping them and show jumping them automatically start throwing in a change. And if you're a straight show jump like, that's awesome. If it's a stride late, you like, that's still awesome. But when we then want to teach them changes, whereas trying to say to them, look, don't change like that. I know you did because you've balanced yourself as best you could, but now I want to teach you how to do it properly. And so it's a bit two steps forward one step back. So we have to be really good at training, um, training something that's necessarily good for the job. So I think as an event, you really learn actually a lot of skills on how to, how to manufacture a horse. Like I don't think I've ever got.
Amanda (29:52):
So like when you talk about now, I've, I've been super fortunate. Um, I think like about 2010, I realized that producing horses from scratch was a very long road and it was very uncertain. And if you didn't have enough of a finance to other breeds and really nice ones and wait or purchased some young ones and I've decided to get a syndicate together and that's when we bought quota Tora Bora. And that was really great. So she was reserved for, I think that 2010 world of question games. Um, so I'd say that was a successful syndicate. Um, and now I have like, I'm really fortunate to be based on a super property and the owners have gone together and with five horses. And so it's still hard, like the top level ones, but even I'm hopping on at one that's already been produced to, to sort of four star, three star level, I've still got to get my buttons sort of sinked with it and to find something that, yeah, you still got to go back and make sure that, you know, the seats in the right position and your headrest isn't too far up and the mirror is in the right place. And then, and then, you know, you do that on the flat and you get them going and then you go and Gallup cross country probably wreck a bit of what you did on the flat and then, you know, so it is, it's a really interesting process.
Natasha (31:07):
Yeah. Yeah. So is that ideal? Do you think if, if, if, if money was no object and time was no object, obviously to get them produced already, or do you think there is something to be said about doing that whole journey from the start and putting the buttons in yourself? So, you know exactly what those buttons are?
Amanda (31:28):
I would probably buy them as a, let me guess, I'd say maybe five, if i had all the money in the world, like go and choose whatever I want. Probably five, maybe six year olds, maybe a seven year old. Um, and I'd love them to be, um, nice education on the flat, like maybe sort of, you know, novice elementary level, maybe, um, like you, it doesn't have to be amazing. Anything else could show me that it can do, you know, rainback. Um, I want to say if it can kind of naturally want to do a change, um, and then if it goes out and it shows like if we can go and Jump um, and it shows really good technique, even if it's competing, it doesn't have to have jumped a metre 15 . Cause the show jump has jumped a lot bigger at a younger age and the eventers do cause that's all they do. And if it's, if it's just showing potential and it sounds, it's basically survived for five years, it's got straight legs. It's shown that it's trainable, it's gone out and done a few events and I can see what I've got. I quite like producing those, but then again, it's also, I think I would like them to be scattered across the grades a little bit. So, you know, sort of, I think in Australia too, we can only ride three in section. So I have, um, three, four star horses and that's all I can ride in the class. And I've got a nice young one coming up who won't be far off. So I can't actually in his country ride four in a section, but in the UK or overseas you can so yeah, you just got to spread them out, but the young ones are really fulfilling, I think, cause they yours and they've been yours for a long time.
Natasha (33:01):
Yeah. Yeah. That's huge. Wow. Okay. So if you were to say like when you were riding back in pony club and there was other people that you were riding with and now obviously you've gone on to doing amazing things with your career, what would you say is the secret to your success or to success based on how you see it?
Amanda (33:25):
I think, um, I learned to work smarter and not harder, but that was after I learned to work hard. So yeah, I think having a really good work ethic and also looking at the details to me, I feel that when you research being, and you're curious, I think being curious is really important. Um, and then you have to really want to put the hard yards. And so I really, there's a couple of kids that I teach whose, um, parents, um, actually run a, be a Christian center near us. And those kids are probably what are they, I've known them since I was eight and 11. And they take up their own horses at shows that feed them all at home. They do all that stuff. Mum will be having to do the office work at the show and these kids will get themselves arena and they just know how to do stuff. Um, and the other kids, I think that are going to be really successful. I don't think that having everything handed to you actually helps you. I think having like my mom was emotionally very supportive financially I had a pony And you know, I went down to ride and I got lessons and stuff, but it wasn't saddled up for me. It wasn't the best pony. Um, I had to suck it up and things didn't go well, I had to find solutions for help. So, um, the other thing, I think he's having a really good mentor, um, someone who you can ask questions and you can watch the way they train and they happy to point you in the right direction as other examples and, you know, um, being in a good environment where there's good sportsmanship, um, and you just, yeah. Yeah. And you just learn by examples yet.
Natasha (35:10):
Yeah. Beautiful. Thank you so much. So how can people get in touch with you and, um, maybe not you coaching a little bit, but not heaps of coaching, but how, how, if people want to being tapped with you or want to get your help in what, in some way, what do you do and what do you offer and how can they do that?
Amanda (35:28):
Uh, well I'm at the moment I work on a, um, Facebook, Amanda Ross eventing facebook and Instagram, and also started up a YouTube channel. Um, and the moment just working on some much bigger stuff to come from there that hopefully I can be able to keep my coaching out and then, you know, sort of do it website and have a business like that. So I can contact me that way. Um,
Natasha (35:53):
If they're, if they're really excited about that, what's the timeframe on that? When did that, what did I have to wait?
Amanda (35:59):
Oh, it's going to be, look, we're starting from scratch. I'm basically taking the contents of my question brain and dumping it at the moment. Great. I'm thinking it's going to be a few months down the track, but we, you know, already on the, on the YouTube channel, it's had some really good success with people enjoying the training videos. And um, so yeah. Give me, give me maybe you mean six months, maybe four, maybe four. I don't know. Maybe if I said you're very busy, but aren't doing it during Corona, then I'm going to run out of time. But yeah. Yeah. I don't know what we do, so yeah. Right.
Natasha (36:35):
Well, we will put all the links in the show notes of where everyone can find you on Facebook, Instagram and fabulous. Thank you so much for your time. I've had the most amazing time listening to you. And I think everyone listening and me included just, there's no secret to your amazing success. It's so much hard work. It's dedication. And I love that. Yes, it's hard work and yes, it's, it's, it's all this stuff. But I think if I was to say, would you do it all over again? What would the answer be?
Amanda (37:06):
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I love that.
Natasha (37:09):
Yeah. And I love people that have lived lives, where they've lived their passion and they've enjoyed it. Like there's, there's so many other people that are like, Oh, I'm not, didn't really enjoy the 80 years or whatever it is. So it's just really cool to rock on with, with what I love and is what I'm obsessed about. And this is what I work towards every single day. So very cool.
Amanda (37:29):
That's great. Thank you so much for having me. It's been a very inspiring conversation and I'm enjoying that. You're really inspired as well. So I think the more that, that we can involve people in and not be afraid of the hardwork, as much as I talk about it being difficult. I love what I do every day and that's, what's really important. So, you know, 15% of the time you can pay compared to the rest of it. I know I, I love working with the horses and they're such beautiful creatures, so I think we're very blessed to have them around us.
Natasha (37:58):
Absolutely. Cool. Alright, thank you. And I'll speak to you soon.

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